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My RHN has been activated and I am able to see my downloads now. Here's my download options:

 



 

I'm planning on installing Desktop 6. Here's what the downloads look like:

 

Interesting. So, you get access to many different products, even if you might not get support for the ones other than Desktop? Am I right?

Quote:Interesting. So, you get access to many different products, even if you might not get support for the ones other than Desktop? Am I right?

 

 

Yeah you should be able to according the information found on the other post. I checked for myself in redhat documentation. And says I should do it like this.

 

https://access.redha.../docs/DOC-11313

 

Problem is it can't find my recently registered system yet. Might take a day/night before it finds it. After that I can activated the beta channel where workstation channel

is located and I should be able to get most server package according to this post. I'll see. I'll see how it is tomorrow. And report back. Other strange thing is. I installed

thunderbird from the standard repo and the icon on the menu is not showing up while the icon is located in the right folder. And also for thunderbird which I installed from

the default repo, has no icon, but the icon is location on the standard location.Maybe cuz during update it gave me a new kernel and I have option to boot from two kernels

One where it freezes at the end of loading and the new kernel works.. Als I wasn't able to install development tools, thinking I need the workstation channel for that.

I was able to install my graphics card, by install gcc and kernel-devel.

 

Another thing I noticed. I was trying to install sabnzbd using this: http://wiki.sabnzbd....install-centos5

like for SL/CentOS I enabled the epel/rpmforge repo. However under Redhat it won't even find the package:

 

gcc gcc-c++ python-devel.I'm hoping I that once I am able to activate the workstation channel that I'll be able to.

I do find that strange though, maybe cuz it's a devel package?(python-devel), that I can't find that same package under rhel using epel and I can under sl

.Apart from that it looks exactly like centos/sl but with the redhat logos and you got a red bar loading screen when

loading the os. I'll post a screenshot in another section.

 

This is what I have now

 

:~]# yum grouplistLoaded plugins: product-id, refresh-packagekit, subscription-managerUpdating Red Hat repositories.Setting up Group ProcessInstalled Groups: Base Client management tools Debugging Tools Desktop Desktop Debugging and Performance Tools Desktop Platform Dial-up Networking Support Directory Client Fonts General Purpose Desktop Graphical Administration Tools Input Methods Internet Applications Internet Browser Java Platform Legacy UNIX compatibility Legacy X Window System compatibility Messaging Client Support Network file system client Networking Tools Office Suite and Productivity Performance Tools Perl Support Printing client Server Platform X Window System

Just an update. After registering your system and activating it. It takes a couple of hours before you can see your system in your redhat activated systems.

Once it's updated, you can activate any subchannels, I am able to subscribe to beta workstation channel now. I did reinstall my system cuz I wanted to try

something out. Having some problems registering/updating my certificate again. Once I got that worked out and my beta workstation activated again.

I will update this post as in what packages are available through that channel. As in if I am able to install httpd httpd-devel,etc. Also I did contact customer support

for some information about my subscription and they reply fairly fast. The subscription I have is a desktop subscription. I am allowed to install it on one

physical machine and one virtual machine.

btw Hybrid, during installation of RHEL Desktop you only have options: Desktop, Minimal Desktop and one other option.

 

I got it all up and running again and here's my conclusion. RHEL is good for a server cuz of the updates and the rhel repos and support But having a a rhel desktop subscription,

you do have access to the workstation beta channels, haven't checked what's in them yet. But installing from third party repos causes conflicts for some applications.

Even when having them disabled and only using them to install applications(via yum --enablerepo-) from nothing else. I can't install vlc from rpmforge. I'm going to switch my desktop back

to SL6 and wait till I can buy my server and then install it on there and see what happens.. I don't want want to have a limited desktop.

I have to say that it doesn't look like RHEL is really the right fit for me -- at least not without paying a server subscription I cannot afford. As much as I'd like to support Red Hat for putting together the distro I use now in the form of CentOS, they're not making it easy. :(

 

The restriction on the number of machines you can install RHEL on doesn't seem remotely right. I create and destroy new virtual machines all the time for testing purposes, so there's no way I can be sure I'd only have 1+1 installations at any one time. I'm sure RHEL is great, but it doesn't seem like it will work out for me in its current form.

 

Thank you for your investigations though, it's still interesting to hear your experiences with it.

Quote:I have to say that it doesn't look like RHEL is really the right fit for me -- at least not without paying a server subscription I cannot afford. As much as I'd like to support Red Hat for putting together the distro I use now in the form of CentOS, they're not making it easy. [img]<___base_url___>//public/style_emoticons/default/sad.png[/img]

 

The restriction on the number of machines you can install RHEL on doesn't seem remotely right. I create and destroy new virtual machines all the time for testing purposes, so there's no way I can be sure I'd only have 1+1 installations at any one time. I'm sure RHEL is great, but it doesn't seem like it will work out for me in its current form.

 

Thank you for your investigations though, it's still interesting to hear your experiences with it.

 

You are able to remove physical/virtual machines from your redhat profile when reinstalling your system or wanting to install it on another virtual machine.

 

My subscription won't go to waste though. Like I said once I buy together my server I'm going to activate it on there and then activate workstation channel to see if I am able to install server services(httpd,etc). I'll report back about that once I have my server and all. But for now SL6 is the distro for me as a desktop. Why, because it's a rhel clone, not limited as in desktop use and because they have a friendly community and I never found the debian community that friendly even thought I did try. And because I find SL6 stable :)

Now that I got my favorite distro back up and running and I got kvm to work with network connection. I'm going to install rhel6 virtually, and take a bit more time to see what I can do with it.

And I'll update about it in a different post, it's still worth using for experimenting to see what options I got and what you can do with a normal desktop subscription. I didn't take that much

time for it and my host/desktop system is how I like it now.

I got an answer about channels. The answer was on subscription level redhat when you register/subscribe to redhat network you automatically get all the resources you paid for. I installed my RHEL6 on a VM. I am able to install apache and mysql server. So that would mean all else is possible too.

 

[root@rhel ~]# yum search httpd mysql-server

Loaded plugins: product-id, refresh-packagekit, subscription-manager

Updating certificate-based repositories.

rhel-6-desktop-rpms | 3.7 kB 00:00

============================== N/S Matched: httpd ==============================

httpd.x86_64 : Apache HTTP Server

httpd-tools.x86_64 : Tools for use with the Apache HTTP Server

mod_dnssd.x86_64 : An Apache HTTPD module which adds Zeroconf support

 

========================== N/S Matched: mysql-server ===========================

mysql-server.x86_64 : The MySQL server and related files

 

I installed rpmforge and disabled it and try to install by doing yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install vlc

 

But then I only get errors unable to install dependency problems. So seems when using rhel it's best to only use rhel repo packages as a couple people on other forums mentioned.

Making it hard to use 3rd party repo's. So I find that would limit rhel as a desktop if you have to stick to rhel packages. But being able to install server packages like httpd and

mysqld would qualify it for a server. These are just my observations from my limited knowlege. Might be worth trying out for yourself to find out.

Also check this out :)