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Dungeon-Dave

2012-05-28, 09:00 AM

Quote:in fact, at the very beginning i found gazelle, i started on another tutorial, this one :::

http://www.bvlist.co...ian-server.html

 
I'm not keen on the way that tutorial's written, either - especially comments like:

Quote:pirpiliter[/i]']You should probably create a different MySQL user for the site with less-than-root rights. But again, you cba to do so, so we’ll just skip this
 

Now.. I'm a bit confused here. Do you want to set up Gazelle or XBT? What is your final desired outcome?

totopizza

2012-05-28, 09:57 AM

Hello Dragon !!! :))))))))) heuuuuuu wooo sorry Dungeon Dave !!!!

Excuse me please this little joke, am particularly happy this morning !!! hihihiiii

 

I thank you very much on helping me !!!! you know generally am good on coding php, sql, jquery ...

Its on installing servers am a big zero, arrrffffff

 

So, you're right some remarks are weird, reading at the second one tutorial, lollll

 

At the beginning i was looking after installing and running Gazelle.

 

Then, i encountered a few troubles, because i was not used to manage a vps.

 

My vps is UNmanaged ! my host helped me on a few stuff, and then, they told me, they had to stop on helping me,

Because seems their boss do not agree they spend time for free on helping people,

AND to manage my vps for me, they would have to charge me a 200$ !!!

 

Do you believe it ?? its amazing, right ?

 

SO,

I dealed alone on installing the required for Gazelle. Gazelle is NOW running fine except about the tracker.

 

They use xbt tracker OR ocelot, some xbt derivated own made.

 

So i am on this step, trying to run xbt or ocelot.

 

The Gazelle support forums are down, so its because am obliged to search over the net,

For some tutorials and as you can see, its weird, because there are some important differences between all available tutorials.

 

I dont like those commands installing so many packages at the same time,

I would like to install all packages one by one.

 

You told me to do some test, so you mean use xamp and make a local install , right ?

 

AM GONNA TRY to make a local install, but i never did a local install,

so its another stuff to learn for me, i'll have a look today :))))))

Lets search after : local install, hihiiiiii for sure i gonna find many different tutorials .... :)

 

 

SO NOW, gazelle frontend is running, i am on xbt tracker OR ocelot install step.

 

I tried to install xbt tracker, SEEMS there are good tutorials

But i felt down on this weird error abot the g++: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory



 

The same for ocelot ...



 

 

SO, today i'll try to restart from the beginning, following the tutorial DAT SEEMS to be the more "serious".



http://filesharefreak.com/tutorials/how-...ian-server

well this one is not so "serious", they are talking about renting soem kimsufi server, oufff ouffff but many people told me NOT to rent a kinsufi due to huge security holmes on those ....

 

SO WELL : i try doing stuff on my vps, IF this does not function, i'll give up,

AND start on a local install ... some other stuff to learn : doing a local install ... hihiiiiiii

totopizza

2012-05-28, 10:19 AM

checking installed packages :))))))))))))

 

 

 

dpkg -l | grep g++

ii g++ 4:4.4.5-1 The GNU C++ compiler

ii g++-4.3 4.3.5-4 The GNU C++ compiler

ii g++-4.4 4.4.5-8 The GNU C++ compiler

ii g++-4.4-multilib 4.4.5-8 The GNU C++ compiler (multilib files)

ii g++-multilib 4:4.4.5-1 The GNU C++ compiler (multilib files)

 

dpkg -l | grep gcc

ii gcc 4:4.4.5-1 The GNU C compiler

ii gcc-4.1 4.1.2-29 The GNU C compiler

ii gcc-4.1-base 4.1.2-29 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)

ii gcc-4.3 4.3.5-4 The GNU C compiler

ii gcc-4.3-base 4.3.5-4 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)

ii gcc-4.4 4.4.5-8 The GNU C compiler

ii gcc-4.4-base 4.4.5-8 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)

ii gcc-4.4-multilib 4.4.5-8 The GNU C compiler (multilib files)

ii gcc-multilib 4:4.4.5-1 The GNU C compiler (multilib files)

ii lib64gcc1 1:4.4.5-8 GCC support library (64bit)

ii libgcc1 1:4.4.5-8 GCC support library

 

dpkg -l | grep nginx

ii nginx 1.2.0-1~dotdeb.1 small, but very powerful and efficient web server and mail proxy

ii nginx-common 1.2.0-1~dotdeb.1 small, but very powerful and efficient web server (common files)

ii nginx-full 1.2.0-1~dotdeb.1 nginx web server with full set of core modules

totopizza

2012-05-28, 10:39 AM

OK so am checking ALL packages very carefully, so far here after what i did

 

 

 

 

 

apt-get install build-essential gcc wget subversion automake libtool make g++ -f

_________________________________________________________________________________

Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

automake is already the newest version.

build-essential is already the newest version.

g++ is already the newest version.

gcc is already the newest version.

libtool is already the newest version.

make is already the newest version.

subversion is already the newest version.

wget is already the newest version.

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

 

 

NOT REDONE ::: mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev

 

apt-get install zlib1g-dev libpng-dev libmcrypt-dev libxml2-dev libevent-dev libmysqld-dev

__________________________________________________________________________________________

Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

Note, selecting 'libpng12-dev' instead of 'libpng-dev'

libevent-dev is already the newest version.

libmcrypt-dev is already the newest version.

libpng12-dev is already the newest version.

zlib1g-dev is already the newest version.

libxml2-dev is already the newest version.

libmysqld-dev is already the newest version.

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

 

 

NOT REDONE ::: apache2 php5 memcached sphinxsearch phpmyadmin

 

 

apt-get install gcc build-essential binutils libmysql++-dev g++ libev-dev php5-memcache php5-curl

__________________________________________________________________________________________________

Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

binutils is already the newest version.

build-essential is already the newest version.

g++ is already the newest version.

gcc is already the newest version.

libev-dev is already the newest version.

libmysql++-dev is already the newest version.

php5-memcache is already the newest version.

php5-curl is already the newest version.

 

 

 

 

SO now, gonna try those i guess are the most dangerous for my vps stability .... ouuuchhhhh

 

 

mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev

 

AND

 

apache2 php5 memcached sphinxsearch phpmyadmin

 

 

 

i guess apache2 AND php5 AND mysql-server are the ones really dangerous,

lol OF COURSE apache2 and php5 and mysql-server are installed, if NOT none of my sites would be abale to run, right ??

 

 

hazaaaaaaaaaaaaa its a hard world hihiiiiii :))))))))))

totopizza

2012-05-28, 10:40 AM

am following this one tutorial :::: http://www.ehow.com/how_12211100_install...zelle.html

 

lets see if i break down all .......... ouuuuuuu mummy !!!!!!!!! :))))))))))))

totopizza

2012-05-28, 11:26 AM

arrrrfffff c++ compiler still not running, booooooooooooo ......... what a cruel word ....

 

 

i continue adding what i wroten HERE as NOT REDONE ...

 

so for apt-get install

libmysqlclient15-dev



 

i recieve this answer



________________________________________________



Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

Note, selecting 'libmysqlclient-dev' instead of 'libmysqlclient15-dev'

libmysqlclient-dev is already the newest version.

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

 

 

could it be an "error" if the system select 'libmysqlclient-dev' instead of 'libmysqlclient15-dev' ???

 

am also reading carefully this other tutorial, very interresting one :::

 

http://www.bvlist.com/gazelle/2359-how-s...erver.html

 

seems over there, some people encountered the same troubles as me ....

totopizza

2012-05-28, 11:30 AM

SO i left as NOT REDONE packages ::::

 

mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev



 

AND



 



apache2 php5 memcached sphinxsearch phpmyadmim



 

but THOSE could seriously dammaged my vps,



can i redone php5, mysql-server or apache2 ????



 

i dont think so, and you ?



 

will the system tells me it all ALREADY installed ?



 

OR will the system try to rebuild all apache2, php5, mysql-server ... ?



totopizza

2012-05-28, 12:21 PM

ouuuuuuuuuuuulalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i found ALL PACKAGES INSTALLED

 

and DETAILS using webadmin, its a .............. NIGHTMARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

here we go ::::::

____________________________________________

 

 

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totopizza

2012-05-28, 12:25 PM

as far as i ckecked

 

 

* liboost is not installed AND i did not succeed to install it

* nginx is installed, BUT i cannot start it

* httpd ??? i dont even find it

* port configuration ??? i still cannot open any port, BUT the firewall is not running under webadmin,

not even started or configurated

 

 

SEEMS but seems only gcc, g++, c++ are ok, but i should need 4.1.2 versions, wich i dont get

 

 

my host just let me down, lol, its too expensive for them to spend mpore time for me,

when i got a 20$ hosting basic debian ....

 

so

 

 

seems i will end up on this soon, am just a big zero noob .... gonna cry and go to my garden have some rest ...

 

whats a cruel world ....

Dungeon-Dave

2012-05-28, 04:30 PM

Quote:My vps is UNmanaged ! my host helped me on a few stuff, and then, they told me, they had to stop on helping me,

Because seems their boss do not agree they spend time for free on helping people,

AND to manage my vps for me, they would have to charge me a 200$ !!!

 

Do you believe it ?? its amazing, right ?
Well, if you're paying for an unmanaged VPS then they expect you to take ownership and control of it. The fact you got some free admin means you're still up.

 

When I manage servers, many people who had websites hosted on them also expected me to perform support and maintanence, not realising it was THEIR content - they were only paying for me to hold it there, not for me to monitor it also.

Quote:You told me to do some test, so you mean use xamp and make a local install , right ?
Or build a Debian server that closely matches the configuration of your VPS and try it out on there.

 

I sense you're trying to manage a server without knowing anything about server management. Think about the skillset you have: would you let someone maintain your code without any of the programming skills you have? The safest bet is - for what you want - is to try and replicate it yourself in a test environment (at home, etc) so then you know how to do it out there on the web. This isn't all that different to your programming environment: do you code a website whilst it's internet-connected, or do you create some offline testbed that you can code upon before releasing it live?

 

Now, if you DO decide to build yourself a test Debian setup that mirrors your VPN, you'll find many guides that should walk you through many things. But I'm afraid what you're after trying to acheive isn't going to be a simple idiot-proof task which you can then forget about: owning and running an Internet-connected server is quite a responsibility, and judging by the number of trojan attempts at my server there are plenty of naive server owners out there that have very little knowledge of what server administration is all about, and as a result their machines are acting as part of a botnet, or as spam relay clients for fraudsters.

 

You do NOT want to be in THAT position!

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